<html><head></head><body>Martin,<br><br>This message is glowing too brightly for me.<br><br>Best Regards,<br>Me<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On March 1, 2022 11:57:26 PM UTC, Martin Gebhardt <martin@gebhardt.im> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre dir="auto" class="k9mail">Hello all,<br><br>I don't know who of you is familiar with this, I just came across it a <br>few weeks ago. It's about tor-node.org.<br><br>It is probably a person who collects funds for the operation of Tor <br>infrastructure. Nothing wrong with that and I applaud that.<br><br>What you might find objectionable, but I don't, are the sponsors.They <br>are marketplaces that make their money from drug dealing and other <br>illegal sales. I don't mind that, anything is better than buying your <br>addictive substance from windy guys at the train station.<br><br>But what bothers me is the transparency. I also believe that using Tor <br>is an act of anonymity. But running Tor infrastructure is an act of <br>transparency. I am very interested in knowing who is working on our <br>project.<br><br>Unfortunately, the operator can't come forward here either, because then <br>his anonymity towards the marketplace scene would be over.<br><br><br>On the one hand, the operator justifiably wants to remain anonymous. <br>Just to protect his sponsors. On the other hand, however, this leads to <br>the fact that he can not reveal himself as an relay owner within the <br>operators.<br><br>The operator can also not disclose to his sponsors what happens with <br>their money. Because then the sponsors would know which relays are <br>operated and then it is over with the anonymity.<br><br>Without wanting to imply it, I think that this can also simply be a <br>fraud against the sponsors. I wouldn't care about that either. But I do <br>not think that this is the case and assume that relays are operated.<br><br>What do you think about it? For me, it's a breach of the principle of <br>transparency, which I'm sure most of you here agree with.<br><br>I would like to emphasize that I welcome every supporter of the network <br>and I am glad about every single relay. But do we as a community welcome <br>this kind of relay operators? Feel free to express your opinion.<br><br>--<br>Martin<br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>