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<div>George,</div><div><br></div><div>The referenced support article provides recommendations as to what might be causing the overloaded state, but it doesn't provide the metric(s) for how Tor decides whether a relay is overloaded. I'm trying to ascertain the later.</div><div><br></div><div>I would assume the overloaded state metric(S) is/are a maximum timeout value and/or reoccurrence value, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>By knowing what the overloaded state metric is, I can tune my Tor relay just short of it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your reply.</div><div><br></div><div>Respectfully,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Gary</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, September 27, 2021, 2:44:35 AM PDT, Georg Koppen <gk@torproject.org> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Gary C. New via tor-relays:<br clear="none">> Hiro,<br clear="none">> Presently, I'm seeing a similar issue. On my laptop, I'm observing an overloaded status for my relay. However, the same relay shows a green status on my phone.<br clear="none">> Do you do any user-agent detection?<br clear="none">> I'm still interested in those magic numbers, which determine whether a relay has reached an overloaded state.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Which numbers do you mean? Is there anything missing from the support<br clear="none">article[1] you feel should be there?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Georg<br clear="none"><br clear="none">[1] <a shape="rect" href="https://support.torproject.org/relay-operators/relay-bridge-overloaded/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://support.torproject.org/relay-operators/relay-bridge-overloaded/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Thank You.<br clear="none">> Respectfully,<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Gary<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On Saturday, September 25, 2021, 7:11:31 AM PDT, Silvia/Hiro <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:hiro@torproject.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hiro@torproject.org</a>> wrote: <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Hi,<br clear="none">> I went back in history and tried to find out whenever your node<br clear="none">> FriendlyExit1 was overloaded. I couldn't find the exact descriptor.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> One thing I can think of is that on the 22nd when I deployed this I<br clear="none">> noticed a few typos in the code and had to make a second release. Maybe<br clear="none">> something was cached for a while and you what you were accessing from<br clear="none">> mobile was the buggy page.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> If it happens again there are two buttons at the end of the page where<br clear="none">> you can see the latest server and extra-info descriptors. If you<br clear="none">> download the server one you would be able to verify that there is a<br clear="none">> "overload-general" field in there. If there isn't we have a bug :).<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Please let me know if this happens again.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Cheers,<br clear="none">> -hiro<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> On 9/24/21 2:39 PM, friendlyexitnode via tor-relays wrote:<br clear="none">>> Hey hiro, thanks!<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I've also attached some screenshots too if it helps (sorry, I should have done that before). I had first noticed this around 3:45 PM CST on September 23.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> - The Friendly Exit Node Family<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> On Friday, September 24th, 2021 at 4:47 AM, Silvia/Hiro <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:hiro@torproject.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hiro@torproject.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>>> On 9/23/21 10:54 PM, friendlyexitnode via tor-relays wrote:<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>>> This looks like an awesome feature! I super appreciate it.<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> Random question though (and I'm the first to admit I may be doing something wrong), I notice that on Mobile it says my relays are overloaded however when I view it on a normal computer I don't get the overloaded indicator. I've tried refreshing multiple times but getting the same results. Is anyone seeing the same thing?<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> Hi,<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> could you let me know when you accessed the page via mobile approximately?<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> I'll try to check if any of your relays were overloaded in the past.<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> When a node is overloaded the state is kept for 72 hours.<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> Cheers,<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>> -hiro<br clear="none">>>><br clear="none">>>>> Family Members:<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> F01E382DA524A57F2BFB3C4FF270A23D5CD3311D<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> 623CCCC1A1370700DD03046A85D953D35CAB5C21<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> F9A28AB71D7E4E446308641A556EA53BA55FCB50<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> 23F74D581DE92AC59D3527DE4D448E036139D81E<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> A00E900534DFF76371064C03714753EAF8B88820<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> C232D8EE677E6BDF5CFFDDCAC4E2B1682DCE7AE5<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> - The Friendly Exit Node Family<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>> On Thursday, September 23rd, 2021 at 8:39 AM, Silvia/Hiro <a shape="rect" href="mailto:hiro@torproject.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">hiro@torproject.org</a> wrote:<br clear="none">>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> Hello all,<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> One of our goals with our current performance work is to reduce the<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> overload of relays in the network. The implementation of proposal 328[1]<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> a while back made different overload indicators available to relay<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> operators and since a couple of weeks ago those can be tracked via<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> Onionoo[2] as well.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> As we know that a lot of our relay operators use relay search to check<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> for the health of their relays, we have launched a new feature there,<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> too, to help them know when their relays are overloaded.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> When a relay is in the overloaded state we show an amber dot next to the<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> relay nickname.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> Currently we are counting between 50 and 80 overloaded relays and<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> between 10 and 20 overloaded bridges.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> The overloaded state is reached when one or many of the possible load<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> metrics have been triggered. When this happens we show it for 72 hours<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> after the relay has recovered [3]. Note, though, that not all of the<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> exposed overload metrics are triggering the overload indicator on relay<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> search yet.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> If you noticed your relay is overloaded, please check the following<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> support article to find out how you can recover to a "normal" state:<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> <a shape="rect" href="https://support.torproject.org/relay-operators/relay-bridge-overloaded/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://support.torproject.org/relay-operators/relay-bridge-overloaded/</a><br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> Let us known how you find this new feature.<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> Cheers,<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> -hiro<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> [1]<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> <a shape="rect" href="https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/328-relay-overload-report.md" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/proposals/328-relay-overload-report.md</a><br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> [2]<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2021-August/003168.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/2021-August/003168.html</a><br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> [3] <a shape="rect" href="https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n637" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n637</a><br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> tor-relays mailing list<br clear="none">>>>>><br clear="none">>>>>> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br 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