<html><head></head><body>It would have helped if you contacted us again a week later when you didn't get a response from us because your mail has clearly not reached us and was lost (no trace of it in the logfiles) instead of directly going to the bad-relays list. That's simply putting us in a bad light for a problem that has been mostly mitigated some time ago without your notice. <br><br>P.s: the stats were never 100% accurate because we thought about this from the beginning and had cronjobs artificially creating non Tor related traffic.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 11. Februar 2019 22:09:00 MEZ schrieb nusenu <nusenu-lists@riseup.net>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">It is not directly the topic of this thread but<br>I'd like to give you some more context with regards to the "MyFamily" <br>emails to clarify their intention.<br><br>To understand the motivation behind these emails we have to look<br>at how the "bad-relays" process used to look in cases with no available contactInfo<br>before I started sending these emails to tor-relays (short version):<br><br>1) someone reports some relay(s)<br>2) if directory authorities (or their proxies) agree to reject/badexit the relay(s), <br>no information is send to the operator since no contact information is available and the operator<br>has no chance to solve the issue before actions are taken<br>3) directory authorities apply the config change<br><br>in my opinion it were nice if there were at least an _attempt_ to<br>reach out to the operator even with no contactInfo present before even<br>considering any actions to give the operator the chance to solve things right away. <br>This is where this list (tor-relays@) came in,<br>it was used as an option of last resort (to attempt) to contact the operator <br>since it is basically the canonical place to reach operators<br>(and yes I agree that my wording in the last such email wasn't great<br>which tells you my motivation to send them was decreasing).<br><br>As I understand some feel harassed by these emails, <br>this was not my intention, sorry about that.<br>So the old procedure (no emails to this list) will be restored.<br><br><br>With regards to why virii might be mad at me, <br>that is probably related to a recent email of mine (see below).<br>I can understand such an email will not be appreciated<br>but the goal was to trigger a change to reduce the risk at hand.<br>And in the end it has been solved promptly and the tor network<br>is a tiny bit safer for its users - that is the overall goal here.<br>Thanks for solving it.<br><br><br><br><br><br>-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>Subject: enn.lu publishes detailed relay traffic stats<br>Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 22:37:00 +0000<br>From: nusenu <br>To: bad-relays <bad-relays@lists.torproject.org><br>CC: info@enn.lu<br><br>6 months ago I asked enn.lu to take care of <br>their public relay stats, I didn't hear from them since<br>so I propose to reject one of their relays<br>to rise awareness and hope they will take mitigating<br>actions.<br><br><br><a href="https://stats.enn.lu/">https://stats.enn.lu/</a><br><br><a href="http://185.100.87.206/vnstat.xml">http://185.100.87.206/vnstat.xml</a><br><a href="http://185.100.87.207/vnstat.xml">http://185.100.87.207/vnstat.xml</a><br><a href="http://85.248.227.165/vnstat.xml">http://85.248.227.165/vnstat.xml</a><br><a href="http://85.248.227.164/vnstat.xml">http://85.248.227.164/vnstat.xml</a><br><a href="http://85.248.227.163/vnstat.xml">http://85.248.227.163/vnstat.xml</a><br><br><br>-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>Subject: please avoid publishing granular relay statistics<br>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 20:42:00 +0000<br>From: nusenu<br>To: info@enn.lu<br><br>Hi,<br><br>you are publishing hour-level traffic statistics about your relays and bridges <br>at <a href="https://stats.enn.lu/">https://stats.enn.lu/</a><br><br>to quote teor and the relay guide:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">If you want to publish traffic statistics, you should aggregate all your relays' <br>traffic over at least a week, then round that to the nearest 10 TiB (terabytes).<br></blockquote><br>thanks,<br>nusenu<br><br><a href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#SystemHealthMonitoring">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#SystemHealthMonitoring</a><br><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.</body></html>