<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8. Dec 2017, at 10:23, Alexander Dietrich <<a href="mailto:alexander@dietrich.cx" class="">alexander@dietrich.cx</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class=""><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class=""><p class="">I have no experience with Hetzner, but no ISP in Germany (or elsewhere) has ever asked me for a copy of my passport. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.</p><p class="">(For German readers: it's illegal to create photocopies of the latest generation of ID cards, except for government agencies, banks and such, AFAIK.</p></div></div></blockquote><div>No its is not and its normal with banks, ISPs, web hosting<b style="font-size: 14px;" class=""> </b>etc </div><div><br class=""></div><div>proof: <a href="https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf" class="">https://www.datenschutzbeauftragter-info.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Personalausweis-kopieren-Stellungnahme-BMI.pdf</a></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Look it up and stop starting rumours …</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Markus</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class=""><p class="">Kind regards,<br class="">Alexander</p>
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</div><p class=""><br class=""></p><p class="">On 2017-12-08 02:46, niftybunny wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0" class=""><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored -->I do not think they will compromise and this is "normal" behaviour for a ISP from Europe. <a href="http://online.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="">Online.net</a> is cheap, fast and has good support. I would send them what they demanded. In Germany you have to send them a copy of your passport before they even get you a server. Got this with Hetzner. So, nothing to worry about.
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<div class="">On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:41, Tanous <<a href="mailto:tanous@protonmail.com" class="">tanous@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Thanks Markus, I'll ask them if there is another way to unlock my account.</div>
<div class="">In this situations i'm never certain if I have been hacked or something...</div>
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<div class="">Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my identity card</div>
<div class="">Local Time: December 7, 2017 11:26 PM</div>
<div class="">UTC Time: December 8, 2017 1:26 AM</div>
<div class="">From: <a href="mailto:abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net" class="">abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net</a></div>
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<div class="">Same happened here. Sent them their stuff they demanded and 2 days later my account was restored and they are "fine" with abuse. </div>
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<div class="">On 8. Dec 2017, at 02:24, Tanous <<a href="mailto:tanous@protonmail.com" class="">tanous@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">it is <a href="http://online.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="">Online.net</a>.</div>
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<div class="">Subject: Re: [tor-relays] ISP is aking me to send a selfie holding my identity card</div>
<div class="">Local Time: December 7, 2017 10:57 PM</div>
<div class="">UTC Time: December 8, 2017 12:57 AM</div>
<div class="">From: <a href="mailto:abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net" class="">abuse@to-surf-and-protect.net</a></div>
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<div class="">DigitalOcean demanded access to my FaceBook and Twitter account for verification ...</div>
<div class="">I do not own a Twitter or Facebook account ...</div>
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<div class="">Which ISP is it?</div>
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="">On 8. Dec 2017, at 01:54, Tanous <a href="mailto:tanous@protonmail.com" class="">tanous@protonmail.com</a> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">Hi,</div>
<div class="">Im running an exit relay for 116 days. Today i received an email from my ISP saying that my account has been locked for security reasons.</div>
<div class="">They asked me to send a copy of my identity card and a selfie holding it. I found that very odd and i feel uncomfortable sending that data to them.</div>
<div class="">Should i give up to running my exit relay and find another ISP?</div>
<div class="">By the way, i had received an abuse complaint a day before, due to Brute force attempts.</div>
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