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<p>This is just plain FUD, what you're doing now. <br>
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<p>The 3 letter agencies have known about tor, and have been
complaining that they can't break it, for a long time now. In fact
(iirc), they even supported its development at some point, because
they use it themselves. The fact that they're using it is no
reason for concern, rather the opposite, since that means, they
trust its security enough, that they think other states can't
break it.<br>
</p>
<p>That this guy is an ex-cia, also isn't a problem in and of
itself. It's just like hiring an ex-criminal for your security
company. He could fuck you over big time, or he could be a great
asset due to insider knowledge. Snowden is also ex-cia, ffs. <br>
</p>
<p>Also, what should he have "put in place"? A backdoor in the
sourcecode? It's open source, so we can see what he added.
Compromised the DirAuths? They're run by people not directly
associated with the board, who (hopefully) wouldn't simply give
out their private keys. Installed wiretapping? He doesn't need to
be member of the board to do that.</p>
<p>So maybe you should heed your own advice and think!</p>
<p><br>
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<p>(sorry for the rant, guys...)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 03.09.2016 um 12:34 schrieb daniel
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<div>This is upsetting on what I hear and see not. I worked my
ass off to get my relay, now i hear of a strike and tor
hireing a ex-cia offical. Even though i read the resigned,
that still does not make the difference does it. They have
already got in and probably long enough to put in place what
the corrupt US Govt wants to do. They have even admitted they
know about tor, some military usess it, but they cant
penetrate it. Maybe we should all think
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I just multiplied my BandwidthRate with a bit for my
exit.<br>
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//Spid<br>
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On 02/09/16 02:28, Tristan wrote:<br>
> Is the Tor strike today? Because I just set up a
second instance on my<br>
> relay to get the most out of its bandwidth.<br>
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> Oops 😏<br>
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Good job, thank you!<br>
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> Am 02.09.2016 um 17:26 schrieb D.S. Ljungmark
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> I just multiplied my BandwidthRate with a bit for
my exit.<br>
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> //Spid<br>
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>> On 02/09/16 02:28, Tristan wrote:<br>
>> Is the Tor strike today? Because I just set up
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>> relay to get the most out of its bandwidth.<br>
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>> Oops 😏<br>
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Looking at the advertised bandwidth vs bandwidth history
from Tor<br>
Metrics[1], it appears that guard relays see much more
traffic than exit<br>
relays. I think it might be partially because
guard-only, guard-middle and<br>
guard-exits aren't separated, but would it really skew
the numbers that<br>
much?<br>
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Don't forget that some traffic enters through guards but
lands on<br>
hidden services, skipping Exits.<br>
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 12:53:40 -0500<br>
From: Tristan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:supersluether@gmail.com"><supersluether@gmail.com></a><br>
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But hidden service traffic makes up about 0.01% of Tor
traffic.<br>
<br>
Total is about 75Gb/s: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Hidden services are about 900Mb/s:<br>
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Green Dream
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:greendream848@gmail.com"><greendream848@gmail.com></a><br>
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> Don't forget that some traffic enters through
guards but lands on<br>
> hidden services, skipping Exits.<br>
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Michael Armbruster
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tor@armbrust.me"><tor@armbrust.me></a> wrote:<br>
> On 2016-09-02 at 13:18, jensm1 wrote:<br>
>> which shows that the advertised relay bandwidth
in the whole network is<br>
>> more than double the actually used bandwidth.
While it's certainly nice<br>
>> to have a bit of breathing space to absorb load
spikes, I'm wondering,<br>
<br>
> it's always good to have even more relays or exit
nodes, as more "hop<br>
> points" for connections means more diversity
throughout the network<br>
<br>
Once a net reaches adequate bandwidth capacity, adding
more<br>
nodes can do a few things among others...<br>
Good:<br>
- Gives operators deployment experience till their bw is
needed, at $cost.<br>
- More non-evil relays gives better odds of building a
non-evil path, but tor<br>
weight's things so not exactly.<br>
- May add some capacity for directory operations etc<br>
Bad:<br>
- Yields rather unused nodes making it easier for
passive<br>
observer to see you tack up and use a path through them,<br>
especially if you're crafting paths.<br>
<br>
One key here is probably that we don't have a good idea
as to the<br>
quantity of evil nodes, or the hard interest and real
capabilities of PA's.<br>
<br>
To make the call you'd need that, and perf metrics of
your net under<br>
different ratios of advertised:consumed:nodecount, and
min/avg/max/stddev<br>
of idle/random/full paths, to find any sweet spots /
ranges.<br>
<br>
Also considerations of impact adding nodes of less
bandwidth or<br>
more latency than average, versus a campaign to fund
replace them.<br>
<br>
At 42% util by one metric, it may be money and time
better spent<br>
elsewhere, even on better qualifying the default 'more
nodes good' idea.<br>
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