<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I don’t think Weather will be better anytime soon, as it’s been discontinued. [0] If that’s already a reason for you to stop contributing to Tor…<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Although Jacob is not a part of the Tor Project any more ([1][2]), in his time as a (very visible) digital advocate, it obviously was in the interest of the Tor Project to see him in a Tor T-shirt most of the time.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And finally, your T-Shirt “calculation” is a bit off: [3]</div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">We want to make sure
    our shirts help outreach happen all around the world, so please
    understand if we can't send you 5 shirts for your 5 excellent relays.</blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">As Moritz already said, the shirt is a way for the community to show appreciation to individuals and not a way to fill your wardrobe.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, maybe there’s a way for some people here to increase the number of volunteers handling the T-shirt requests? :-)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[0] <a href="https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2016-June/009424.html" class="">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2016-June/009424.html</a></div><div class="">[1] <a href="https://blog.torproject.org/blog/jacob-appelbaum-leaves-tor-project" class="">https://blog.torproject.org/blog/jacob-appelbaum-leaves-tor-project</a></div><div class="">[2] <a href="https://blog.torproject.org/blog/statement" class="">https://blog.torproject.org/blog/statement</a></div><div class="">[3] <a href="https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html" class="">https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/tshirt.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13.06.2016, at 05:25, I <<a href="mailto:beatthebastards@inbox.com" class="">beatthebastards@inbox.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">

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Should we stop Tor until Weather's better?<br class=""><br class="">{ I notice Jacob is always in a new Tor t-shirt but I will wait for evidence to go further.}<br class=""><br class="">Robert<br class="">
<div class=""> </div><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" class=""><div class="msgHeaders">-----Original Message-----<br class=""><b class="">From:</b> <a href="mailto:supersluether@gmail.com" class="">supersluether@gmail.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:51:30 -0500<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org" class="">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather has been discontinued<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="oldBody"><div class="">
    I think you're missing the point of running a Tor relay.<br class="">
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    "The Tor network relies on <i class="">volunteers</i> to <b class="">donate</b>
    bandwidth."<br class="">
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    Volunteer: A person who <i class="">freely</i> offers to undertake a task,
    or, <i class="">freely</i> offer to do something.<br class="">
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    Donate: <b class="">give</b> (money or goods) for a good cause.<br class="">
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    The Tor Project doesn't owe you anything.<br class="">
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    <div _class="moz-cite-prefix" class="">On 06/12/2016 08:26 PM, I wrote:<br class="">
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When did t-shirts become more important than the work we are doing to
keep people safe and anonymous on the internet?
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      <pre wrap="" class="">Actually they are.

I haven't bought any shirts for four years because I can get one tshirt for 60 days of a virtual server costing $Aud15-40/year which makes them $2 to $6 each.  None have worn out and they're posted free!

So, with up to 40 VPSs running I have a huge backlog owed so quite a bit of interest in the situation and relatives waiting.

Robert


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