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I'll hijack the response.... I'm a sysadmin, an unloved Windows one. My unwanted $0.02 are:</div>
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- Windows installer (omg, Windows, the evil one which if you really want greater adoption is the answer! Oh smokes, someone said it!</div>
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- change the architecture so running behind nat works (this is probably the #1 limit factor for increasing relays). Every tom, dick, and harry could then add bandwidth via every internet circuit. It would be insane!</div>
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-Ben</div>
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<div><b>From: </b>Damian Busby</div>
<div><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, July 4, 2015 7:21 PM</div>
<div><b>To: </b>tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</div>
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<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [tor-relays] unflagged BAD EXIT nodes</div>
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<p dir="ltr">Sorry for hijacking, but I wasn't sure where best to put this.</p>
<p dir="ltr">As a programmer, where should I start if I am considering lending my time to the tor project? While I feel that the BAD EXIT issue needs some love, I defer to those with more knowledge on the state of things to direct my efforts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Is there a online resource I should peruse, or is it more of a secret society complete with hazing and chanting?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Once again, sorry for the interruption.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The Other Damian<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 4, 2015, 12:12 PM Damian Johnson <<a href="mailto:atagar@torproject.org">atagar@torproject.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I find it more worrying that we do not "hear" about the 'more serious<br>
> attacks' that keep them busy and don't allow them to look into i.e.<br>
> 'AviatoChortler' (even after a few weeks). That might mean that there<br>
> is a constant stream of 'more serious attacks' (without information I<br>
> can only guess).<br>
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... or it could also be that we're simply spread too thin. ;)<br>
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Bad relay detection is a space that doesn't traditionally get much<br>
focus. Presently Philipp is the only person investing time here, and<br>
he both has a day job and would prefer to do more interesting things<br>
(like write code!) in his free time.<br>
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As I see it there's three areas that need to be improved in this space...<br>
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1. Bad relay detection. Philipp's ExitMap [1] and my naive sybil<br>
checker [2] are the only automated checks I'm aware of right now. That<br>
leaves a lot of room for improvement.<br>
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2. Openness. Traditionally there's been some contention about where to<br>
draw the line between openness and secrecy. Personally this is what<br>
turned me off to this space [3]. Thankfully Philipp's moving us toward<br>
being a little less secretive. [4]<br>
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3. Responsiveness. To get a relay flagged we need to persuade<br>
directory authority operators to manually intervene by editing their<br>
torrc. I get the impression all the dirauths that vote on BadExit now<br>
use Philipp's git repository so hopefully this is better than it once<br>
was.<br>
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All this is to say 'help welcome!'. If this is a space you truly care<br>
about then please make it better! Philipp can best say where more<br>
hands would be useful.<br>
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Cheers! -Damian<br>
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[1] <a href="http://www.cs.kau.se/philwint/spoiled_onions/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
http://www.cs.kau.se/philwint/spoiled_onions/</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://gitweb.torproject.org/doctor.git/tree/sybil_checker.py" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://gitweb.torproject.org/doctor.git/tree/sybil_checker.py</a><br>
[3] see the 'As of April 2013 this list is no longer being maintained'<br>
note on <a href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/badRelays" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/badRelays</a><br>
[4] <a href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13302" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13302</a><br>
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