<p dir="ltr">Can I get the list of those sites which are blocking tor traffic to view or edit their page?</p>
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1. Re: Subpoena received (Jan GUTH)<br>
2. Re: Subpoena received (Jan GUTH)<br>
3. Re: Subpoena received (Brian Kroll)<br>
4. Re: Subpoena received (<a href="mailto:renke@mobtm.com">renke@mobtm.com</a>)<br>
5. Re: Quantum Insert detection for everyone (<a href="mailto:tor@t-3.net">tor@t-3.net</a>)<br>
6. Re: Subpoena received (Moritz Bartl)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:15:32 +0200<br>
From: Jan GUTH <<a href="mailto:prometheus@enn.lu">prometheus@enn.lu</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received<br>
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On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:<br>
> Hi<br>
> I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena<br>
> regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real<br>
> IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't<br>
> help them in identifying this person. Nevertheless I will give you the<br>
> link to the full subpoena. Maybe you guys find it interesting. I will<br>
> forward the subpoena to our lawyer as well.<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ" target="_blank">https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ</a><br>
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Good morning list,<br>
<br>
I just called up Alistar and explained the entire situation. They IT<br>
guys know what Tor is and their company is strongly interested in<br>
continuing supporting Tor. They are a partner company now of Voxility,<br>
and the apparently while moving some clients, someone did forget to tell<br>
them that they'll get a client running Tor exit nodes.<br>
<br>
They are simply overchallenged with this request as it is the very first<br>
one they have ever received.<br>
<br>
The good news is, that they will _not_ shutdown our server, nor take any<br>
logs, which are non-existant. The counterpart we need to contribute is a<br>
letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other<br>
bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do<br>
not try to fool them.<br>
<br>
This is a request from the administration level of the company, not the<br>
tech guys - as always.<br>
<br>
So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else<br>
within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of<br>
and what not? Moritz?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
J.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jan GUTH<br>
International Coordinator<br>
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Fr?nn vun der ?nn A.S.B.L. (NGO)<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:20:10 +0200<br>
From: Jan GUTH <<a href="mailto:prometheus@enn.lu">prometheus@enn.lu</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received<br>
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On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:<br>
> Hi<br>
> I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena<br>
> regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real<br>
> IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't<br>
> help them in identifying this person. Nevertheless I will give you the<br>
> link to the full subpoena. Maybe you guys find it interesting. I will<br>
> forward the subpoena to our lawyer as well.<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ" target="_blank">https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ</a><br>
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Good morning list,<br>
<br>
I just called up Alistar and explained the entire situation. They IT<br>
guys know what Tor is and their company is strongly interested in<br>
continuing supporting Tor. They are a partner company now of Voxility,<br>
and the apparently while moving some clients, someone did forget to tell<br>
them that they'll get a client running Tor exit nodes.<br>
<br>
They are simply overchallenged with this request as it is the very first<br>
one they have ever received.<br>
<br>
The good news is, that they will _not_ shutdown our server, nor take any<br>
logs, which are non-existant. The counterpart we need to contribute is a<br>
letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other<br>
bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do<br>
not try to fool them.<br>
<br>
This is a request from the administration level of the company, not the<br>
tech guys - as always.<br>
<br>
So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else<br>
within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of<br>
and what not? Moritz?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
J.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jan GUTH<br>
International Coordinator<br>
<br>
Fr?nn vun der ?nn A.S.B.L. (NGO)<br>
e. <a href="mailto:info@enn.lu">info@enn.lu</a> (GPG: 0x02225522)<br>
t. +352?691?71?77?44<br>
w. <a href="http://enn.lu/" target="_blank">http://enn.lu/</a><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:29:45 +0000<br>
From: Brian Kroll <<a href="mailto:brian@fiberoverethernet.com">brian@fiberoverethernet.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received<br>
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Zack Weinberg:<br>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Tyler Durden <<a href="mailto:virii@enn.lu">virii@enn.lu</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>> I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena<br>
>> regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania<br>
><br>
> Just FYI, "Washington" doesn't appear to have anything to do with<br>
> this. The subpoena is on the letterhead of an office of Cook<br>
> County, Illinois, which is the locality containing the city of<br>
> Chicago. Per<br>
> <a href="http://www.cookcountyil.gov/office-of-the-independent-inspector-general/" target="_blank">http://www.cookcountyil.gov/office-of-the-independent-inspector-general/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
this office investigates misconduct by county officials.<br>
><br>
> This matters because, first, this is probably a tiny little outfit<br>
> with little or no clue about either the Internet or international<br>
> law.<br>
<br>
As a resident of Cook Country I can safely say it's not a small<br>
locality, but I'm sure their knowledge about international law is<br>
quite low.<br>
<br>
> They *should have* hired an international lawyer when they saw<br>
> they'd need to talk to someone operating out of Romania and/or<br>
> Luxembourg, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they<br>
> didn't.<br>
<br>
> And they've probably never even heard of Tor before.<br>
<br>
I know the Chicago Police claim they don't know what Tor is.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.muckrock.com/foi/chicago-169/chicago-police-use-of-tor-15392/" target="_blank">http://www.muckrock.com/foi/chicago-169/chicago-police-use-of-tor-15392/</a><br>
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> Second, the incident which triggered the investigation, whatever it<br>
> is, is probably quite minor. (This is backed up by their asking<br>
> for one IP address active at a single point in time.) It would<br>
> have been booted up to the state or federal level if it were any<br>
> kind of serious. For both those reasons, I would rate the odds of<br>
> them actually bothering to jump through all the necessary legal<br>
> hoops to get a court order binding on a foreign national as slim to<br>
> none.<br>
<br>
<br>
ATB<br>
//Brian<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:47:17 +0200 (CEST)<br>
From: <a href="mailto:renke@mobtm.com">renke@mobtm.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
> The counterpart we need to contribute is a<br>
> letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other<br>
> bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do<br>
> not try to fool them.<br>
<br>
as the US government sponsored (parts of) the Tor development - what about giving them US military research papers about the Tor network?<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a465464.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a465464.pdf</a> is one of them, co-authored by a Navy researcher and performed by the Naval Research Laboratory.<br>
<br>
Not itself sufficient, but done by a bigger organisation w/o triggering anarchist/commie/hacker/terroristsupporting/publicenemy bias reactions.<br>
<br>
Renke<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:39:07 -0400<br>
From: <a href="mailto:tor@t-3.net">tor@t-3.net</a><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Quantum Insert detection for everyone<br>
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On 04/23/2015 01:56 AM, David Stainton wrote:<br>
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> It is possible to add a "prevention" mechanism to HoneyBadger; an<br>
> event based firewall ruleset generator made to block TCP injection<br>
> attacks as they are happening... yes. This is possible. I could<br>
write<br>
> that if there was interest from enough people.<br>
<br>
Gief.<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:57:32 +0200<br>
From: Moritz Bartl <<a href="mailto:moritz@torservers.net">moritz@torservers.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tor-relays@lists.torproject.org">tor-relays@lists.torproject.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received<br>
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On 04/23/2015 10:20 AM, Jan GUTH wrote:<br>
> So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else<br>
> within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of<br>
> and what not? Moritz?<br>
<br>
Depends on what convinces them. :-) Sounds like it may make sense to get<br>
a generic letter signed by all our partner organizations (which includes<br>
Reporters without Borders, Institute of War & Peace Reporting,<br>
Article19, and potentially other Human Rights Orgs) in the long run.<br>
<br>
I'm happy to write something as Torservers.net, in a way representing<br>
all the current partner orgs. Then, we can send the letter around and<br>
get it co-signed by all the partner orgs and other orgs.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Moritz Bartl<br>
<a href="https://www.torservers.net/" target="_blank">https://www.torservers.net/</a><br>
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