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<div>Grah,</div>
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<div>please don't mind the confusing opening. I was kind of distracted ;)</div>
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<div>Cheers.</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 25. Januar 2014 um 16:15 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> tor@gmx.info<br/>
<b>An:</b> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> [tor-relays] A little bedtime story about relays and OVH</div>
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<div>Hi list,</div>
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<div>as I am in the progress of looking for a dedicated box to host a high volume relay on,</div>
<div>as one of my current Tor-VPSs has some TCP limitations so I took it down. After doing</div>
<div>some reasearch, my shortlist came up with OVH. After reading their (awfully translated:</div>
<div>Babelfish French to German anyone?) AUP/TOS, I found that Tor nodes in any flavor</div>
<div>are forbidden on their network. So I got curious and checked the pertinent Tor node</div>
<div>lists for boxes within AS-OVH.</div>
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<div>To my surprise, several dozen servers happily popped up as a result. I got even more</div>
<div>curious and called the German affiliate about their policy regarding proxies and Tor</div>
<div>nodes in general. To my surprise, the person there seemed familiar with what Tor is</div>
<div>and had some insights about the policy as well.</div>
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<div>He told me what I read in their special rules about root servers and there are no</div>
<div>exceptions. So, I inquired about all the nodes already in place within their AS. Guy</div>
<div>didn't break a sweat and calmly explained that there are special contracts for them.</div>
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<div>And therein lies the rub: if you want to place a Tor node, exit or relay, inside their</div>
<div>network, you have to explain your intent, security measures, shoe size etc. in writing.</div>
<div>Apparently, you also need to log the connections for the authorities so they can deal</div>
<div>with *insert high profile evildoer reason here* should the need arise.</div>
<div>Anyone with an OVH server reading this? Care to comment?</div>
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<div>What to conclude from that? I am not too sure myself. Ban AS16276 from the Tor network?</div>
<div>This would probably enlist copycats who are afraid to deal of the legal consequences</div>
<div>and soon every big hoster is banned. Wouldn't hurt for some, mind you ;) After that, the</div>
<div>small ones will likely get zeroed in by the authorities and a lack of financial resources will</div>
<div>be the end to them.</div>
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<div>Thoughts?</div>
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