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I donated to Tor a few times because I couldn't use Linux, a VPS, or get past the port problems from home. <br>Donations of cash are far better than using volunteers to send a partly profitable t-shirt.<br><br>After the threshold of my first relay (an exit on a Windows VPS) Tor weather promised a t-shirt which seemed a fair trade. Learning and restarting after daily stoppages of the VPS took much time. The t-shirt was to be symbolic of commitment to Tor ideals in a small way. <br>Donations of time and VPS hire to expand the network are better than cash donations to Tor, I feel.<br><br>Now after numerous relays and exits, copyright threats and pleadings, and many hours and $ a t-shirt or mug would mean the commitment to the ideals was recognised.<br>Tor Weather hasn't registered it but it should have to ensure encouragement to broaden the network.<br><br>[IMO] The t-shirt or whatever should be a good design such as Jacob wore at 30c3 rather than the the current one.<br><br>Robert<br><br><br><br>
<div> </div><br><br><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><div class="msgHeaders">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> th6045@gmail.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:14:04 +0000<br><b>To:</b> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tor-relays] Tor Weather getting T-shirt email. Problem<br><br></div><div class="oldBody"><div><div dir="ltr">I've run several middle relays for over a year but they keep getting knocked down due to circuit creation storms (on RPIs) or powercuts or updates or some other issue. Yes uptime is important, but 100% is not practical for most relay operators. Also, if you want a shirt so badly, donate to Tor! In fact, I just realised I do want a shirt! <div>
Tom</div></div><div _class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div _class="gmail_quote">On 30 December 2013 11:48, Random Tor Node Operator <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tor@unterderbruecke.de" target="_blank">tor@unterderbruecke.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 12/28/2013 01:26 AM, I wrote:<br>
> I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt<br>
> from donated resources.<br>
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> It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time<br>
> running ignoring minor disruptions.<br>
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</div>I agree with that point, because currently, relay operators have the<br>
incentive to not update to the latest Tor version whenever a new<br>
version is released, in order to keep the consecutive uptime high.<br>
That is probably not in the best interest of Tor.<br>
<br>
Maybe Tor Weather could look at the flags instead of the consecutive<br>
uptime instead. For example, you typically don't lose your Guard or<br>
Stable flag due to a reboot.<br>
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> Robert<br>
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>> : i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a<br>
>> email : -Uptime is nearly 100%,<br>
>><br>
>> Tor weather needs some updating, however it continues to email<br>
>> plenty of relay operators. The reason you didn't get an email is<br>
>> tor weather didn't see your relay matching the uptime<br>
>> requirement,<br>
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