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I guess that's a good point. I don' want my non-tor-related hardware
stuck with the police, because they can not encypt my harddrives. I
think I will just run a tor-relay und donate a little so someone
else can run an exit-node.<br>
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Am 01.08.13 16:36, schrieb Samuel Walker:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> An exit relay operator in
Austria recently had their home raided by police after abuse from
the exit node IP,<br>
><br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/10/tor_admin/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/10/tor_admin/</a><br>
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> I recall reading somewhere else that the police pointed out
that even if the abuse can from an IP address shared by a Tor exit
node, they still needed to check whether the abuse did come from
Tor, rather than another computer that was on the same internal
networh (thus sharing the public IP address). So, it's worth
bearing in mind if you will be sharing the same IP address with
other computers in your home.<br>
><br>
> Samuel.<br>
><br>
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> On 1 Aug 2013, at 15:25, Sanjeev Gupta <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ghane0@gmail.com">ghane0@gmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ghane0@gmail.com"><mailto:ghane0@gmail.com></a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Matthias Redies
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rediesmatthias@yahoo.de">rediesmatthias@yahoo.de</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rediesmatthias@yahoo.de"><mailto:rediesmatthias@yahoo.de></a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Luckly I have a fiber connection and a unused
RaspberryPi. So running an exit-node would be free for me. Can you
describe the encounter with the police? Did you just go to your
local police station oder did you call a special cybercriminality
unit?<br>
>><br>
>> What exactly was the 'hassle' when you ran an
exit-node?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> This is for Singapore, but may provide you with a data
point.<br>
>><br>
>> I run a number of Tor nodes in Singapore. The servers
are hosted on IPs that are registered to me in APNIC whois. <br>
>><br>
>> The Singapore Police has an active Cyber Crime division.
Singapore Law is based in large part on English Law.<br>
>><br>
>> I am not sure if the investigation is ongoing, so I am
leaving out specifics.<br>
>><br>
>> I received, about 3 months ago, an email from a Police
Officer. It was addressed to my address in the whois, and seemed
to be written assuming I was an ISP. It cited a date and time
range, an IP address, and asked which customer was using the IP
address at that time. This was in connection with "unathorised
fund transfers".<br>
>><br>
>> I replied back explaining that the IP was in my control,
and ran TOR. I provided a link to the TOR website, and that I did
not have any logs.<br>
>><br>
>> I got back a prompt response thanking me, and have heard
nothing since.<br>
>><br>
>> So it is possible that, as law enforcement gets better
clued in to Tor, they would be willing to let you go with dirty
looks for making their life harder, but not call down the SWAT
team.<br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
>> Sanjeev Gupta<br>
>> +65 98551208 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane">http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane</a><br>
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