<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Hey everyone! <br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Here are our </span><mark data-auto-scroll="true"><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">meeting</span></mark><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> logs:</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span><a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2023/tor-meeting.2023-05-04-15.59.log.html">http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2023/tor-meeting.2023-05-04-15.59.log.html</a></span><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">And our <mark>meeting</mark> pad:<br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span><span>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></span><div><ul><li><span>THIS IS A PUBLIC PAD</span></li></ul></div><div><span>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span>Anti-censors</span><span>hip</span></div><div><span>--------------------------------</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Next meeting: Thursday</span><span>,</span><span> </span><span>May</span><span> </span><span>11</span><span> 16:00 UTC</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Weekly meetings, ever</span><span>y</span><span> Thursday at 16:00 UTC, in #tor-meeting at OFTC</span></div><div><span>(channel is logged while meetings are in progress)</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Goal of this meeting ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Weekly check-in about the status of anti-censorship work at Tor.</span></div><div><span>Coordinate collaboration between people/teams on anti-censorship at the Tor Project and Tor community.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Links to Useful documents ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>Our anti-censorship roadmap:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Roadmap: </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/boards" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/boards</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>The anti-censorship team's wiki page:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/home" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/home</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Past meeting notes can be found at:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Tickets that need reviews: from sponsors</span><span>,</span><span> we are working on:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>All needs review tickets:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&assignee_id=None" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&assignee_id=None</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Sponsor 96</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/-/milestones/24" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/-/milestones/24</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Sponsor 139 <-- hackerncoder, irl, joydeep, meskio, emmapeel working on it</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/sponsor139-meeting-pad" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://pad.riseup.net/p/sponsor139-meeting-pad</a></span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Announcements ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Discussion ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>Update on Analysis of speed deficiency of Snowflake in China, 2023 Q1 </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40251#note_2883879" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40251#note_2883879</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>after a lot of research the proposed solution is to enable datagram transport on webrtc to deal with the packet loss situation</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>that will convert webrtc into an unreliable channel, and snowflake will add reliablity with kcp</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>(NO update from shell @ Apr 20)</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>goptlib now lives in gitlab.torproject.org</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Actions ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>read the safari snowflake extension code (team)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>try to reach the developer (itchyonion will write an email draft, and the team will go over it)</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Interesting links ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://guardianproject.info/2023/03/04/arti-next-gen-tor-on-mobile/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://guardianproject.info/2023/03/04/arti-next-gen-tor-on-mobile/</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>"Support
 for features like advanced censorship circumvention or onion services 
is not exactly straight forward on mobile operating systems, because 
they tend to be way more locked down than traditional computers.  
Currently, we can successfully test pluggable transports in 'managed' 
mode on old versions of Android.  However this technique will likely not
 work on the latest version of Android and never worked iOS to begin 
with.  We have shared our findings with the Arti developer team and hope
 they’ll work on getting us to full Pluggable Transports support, 
integraing with our existing IPtProxy Library soon."</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Unofficial(?) Snowflake extension for Safari in Apple App Store?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/torproject-snowflake/id1597501940" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://apps.apple.com/us/app/torproject-snowflake/id1597501940</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Previously noted at </span><span><a href="https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/anti-censorship-team/2022-February/000222.html" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/anti-censorship-team/2022-February/000222.html</a></span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Reading group ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>We will discuss "</span><span>Lox: Protecting the Social Graph in Bridge Distribution</span><span>" on</span><span> 2023 May 18</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://cypherpunks.ca/~iang/pubs/lox-popets23.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://cypherpunks.ca/~iang/pubs/lox-popets23.pdf</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Questions to ask and goals to have:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>What aspects of the paper are questionable?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Are there immediate actions we can take based on this work?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Are there long-term actions we can take based on this work?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Is there future work that we want to call out in hopes that others will pick it up?</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span>== Updates ==</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Name:</span></div><div><span>    This week:</span></div><div><span>        - What you worked on this week.</span></div><div><span>    Next week:</span></div><div><span>        - What you are planning to work on next week.</span></div><div><span>    Help with:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>     - Something you need help with.</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>cecylia (cohosh): last updated 202</span><span>3</span><span>-</span><span>05-04</span></div><div><span>Last week</span><span>:</span></div><div><span>    -</span><span> tor meeting</span></div><div><span>This week:</span></div><div><span>    - </span><span>catch up on emails</span></div><div><span>    - foci stuff</span></div><div><span>    - open issue about archiving snowflake prometheus metrics</span></div><div><span>    - go over lox notes again from meeting</span></div><div><span>    - lox-wasm tor browser builds</span></div><div><span>Needs help with:</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>dcf: 202</span><span>3-0</span><span>4-</span><span>20</span></div><div><ul><li><span>Last week:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- did a haproxy security upgrade on snowflake-01 and snowflake-01 bridges </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40268" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40268</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- moved goptlib from git.torproject.org to gitlab.torproject.org </span><span><a href="https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2023-April/014829.html" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2023-April/014829.html</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- analyzed the rate of client_ip reporting since the release of snowflake-webext-0.7.2 </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/issues/82#note_2896740" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/issues/82#note_2896740</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Next week:</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- open issue to have snowflake-client log whenever KCPInErrors is nonzero </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40262#note_2886018" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40262#note_2886018</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- parent: </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40267" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40267</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- open issue to disable /debug endpoint on snowflake broker</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Help with:</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>meskio: 202</span><span>3</span><span>-</span><span>0</span><span>4-20</span></div><div><span>   Last week:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- </span><span>update PTs to use goptlib from gitlab.tpo</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- distribute bridges in rdsys even if there fewer than requested in the hashring (rdsys#162)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- add webtunnel support to BridgeDB (rdsys#142)</span></li></ul></div><div><span>   Next week:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- tormeeting</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>Shelikhoo: 202</span><span>3</span><span>-</span><span>0</span><span>5</span><span>-</span><span>04</span></div><div><span>   Last Week:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- [Merge Request Awaiting] Add SOCKS5 forward proxy support to snowflake (snowflake!64)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- [Research] HTTPT Planning </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/httpt/-/issues/1" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/httpt/-/issues/</a></span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/httpt/-/issues/1" rel="noreferrer noopener">1</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- Finish all the accumulated task during in person meetup AFK</span></li></ul></div><div><span>   Next Week</span><span>/TODO</span><span>:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- [Research] </span><span>WebTunnel</span><span> </span><span>p</span><span>lanning</span><span> </span><span>(Continue)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- Try to find a place to host another vantage point</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- logcollector alert system</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- webtunnel document for proxy opera</span><span>t</span><span>or</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- Snowflake Performance Analysis</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><br></li></ul></div><div><span>onyinyang: 2023-0</span><span>5-04</span></div><div><span>    Last week:</span></div><div><span>        - Tor meeting</span></div><div><span>    This week:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- finished up implementing metrics to check on flickering resources and ratios observed (maybe) awaiting review</span></li></ul></div><div><span>    
 - Working through changes to handle `gone` resources. rdsys changes are
 tentatively implemented, Lox library changes are more hairy.</span></div><div><br></div><div><ul><li><span>(long term things were discussed at the meeting!):</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span><a href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ac-community-azaleas-room-keep" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ac-community-azaleas-room-keep</a></span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>-
 brainstorming grouping strategies for Lox buckets (of bridges) and 
gathering context on how types of bridges are distributed/use in 
practice.</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>Question:
 What makes a bridge useable for a given user, and how can we encode 
that to best ensure we're getting the most appropriate resources to 
people?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>1. Are there some obvious grouping strategies that we can already consider?</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span> e.g.,
 by pt, by bandwidth (lower bandwidth bridges sacrified to 
open-invitation buckets?), by locale (to be matched with a requesting 
user's geoip or something?)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>2.
 Does it make sense to group 3 bridges/bucket, so trusted users have 
access to 3 bridges (and untrusted users have access to 1)? More? Less?</span></li></ul></div><div><span>    Needs Help with:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>-
 figuring out whether or not the metrics I added to rdsys actually 
collect what we want them to. I can run prometheus locally but am unsure
 how to match this with a realistic onbasca test that can actually show 
whether the metrics are useful/correct. Is there a known way to do such 
tests other than deploy and find out?</span></li></ul></div><div><br></div><div><span>Itchy Onion: 202</span><span>3</span><span>-</span><span>0</span><span>5</span><span>-</span><span>04</span></div><div><span>    Last week:</span></div><div><ul><li><span>- </span><span>Costa Rica</span></li></ul></div><div><span>    This week:</span></div><div><span>     - </span><span><a href="https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/issues/112" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/issues/112</a></span><span> (Some bridges are reported offline but are online and working)</span></div><div><ul><li><span>-
 consulted network health team to understand what "offline" means from 
the Metrics's POV (and discovered a small wording inconsistency in their
 doc)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><span>- better understood the difference between "offline" and working (they are not mutually exclusive)</span></li></ul></div><div><ul><li><br></li></ul></div><div><span>hackerncoder: 202</span><span>3</span><span>-</span><span>0</span><span>4</span><span>-</span><span>20</span></div><div><span>    last week:</span></div><div><span>        - (py-)ooni-exporter torsf (snowflake)</span></div><div><span>        - (py-)ooni-exporter web_connectivity</span></div><div><span>    Next week:</span></div><div><span>       </span><span>- work on "bridgetester"?</span></div><div><span>    </span><span>   </span><span>- how does </span><span>I</span><span>ran block bridges</span><span>?</span></div><span></span><br></span></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 18px;"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton"></div>
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