<div dir="ltr">to be more clear, those devices can currently be surveilled passively. If they were encrypted they couldn't be.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:31 PM Evan d'Entremont <<a href="mailto:evan@evandentremont.com">evan@evandentremont.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">> <span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">Changing the subject a bit, isn't The Internet of Things</span><br class="gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">going to lead to a situation where there are even more NSA, GCHQ, BND</span><br class="gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">remotely controlled computers with microphones and other sensors all around us</span><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(117,117,117);font-family:"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,sans-serif" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><font color="#757575" face="helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif" class="gmail_msg">They didn't say anything about exploits. <br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">I just have several gateways on my desk and none of them use any kind of encryption, from the device to backend, or from the backend to user.</font></div></div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:07 PM Tim Kuijsten <<a href="mailto:info@netsend.nl" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">info@netsend.nl</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Op 04-10-16 om 16:59 schreef Tim Kuijsten:<br class="gmail_msg">
> Op 03-10-16 om 19:43 schreef Evan d'Entremont:<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Not if IoT dev's start encrypting things.<br class="gmail_msg">
><br class="gmail_msg">
> How would encryption help against exploited IoT devices?<br class="gmail_msg">
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sorry, i meant to ask how would encryption help against *exploiting* IoT<br class="gmail_msg">
devices.<br class="gmail_msg">
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