<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>On 13 Sep 2015, at 22:09, teor <<a href="mailto:teor2345@gmail.com">teor2345@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 19px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div>On 13 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Sean Saito <<a href="mailto:saitosean@ymail.com">saitosean@ymail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><p>>"No Self-Referencing Relays"</p><p>>I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that but I assume it is a MyFamily</p><p>>config where a relay includes his own fingerprint. Why does that hurt?</p><p>>The unnecessary descriptor space/bw?</p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>This is something Virgil wanted because he thought self-connections were ugly. If the </p><p>penalizing of self-connections is found to be uglier than the self-connections themselves, we're </p><p>both fine with removing it.</p></blockquote><br><div>Can this be downgraded to an informational message? (or eliminated entirely?)</div><div><br></div><div>Penalties can be quite discouraging, particularly for minor configuration variants.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tim<br></span></div></div></blockquote><br><div>I agree, and this one in particular is important to some operators: by allowing a relay to specify itself in the family, one can just have a single configuration file for all relays in a family. </div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div></body></html>