<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style='font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;'>I only have time to reply back to your reply on part 3 tonight, but it is not a 'bug', this seems to be done on purpose.<br><br><br><br>> 3) Why is the little orion icon missing in TOR 4.0.4 bundle for Windows? Now <br>> Tor bundle looks exactly the same as regular Firefox and Firefox GUI looks <br>> like Chrome. There is very little visual differentiation left and this is a <br>> bit of a concern that I might accidentally cross containmenate. <br><br><br><br>So, I really meant, in the system tray (assuming this is Windows), that little Onion router icon (the one that turns yellow, green) is gone.... <br><br>Since the early versions of TOR ( I still use this one I customized back in 2010 - five years ago : http://sourceforge.net/projects/securitytor/ )<br><br>Since the early versions of TOR, each new version has been from the interface/UI standpoint more and more dumped down... almost like way of the Windows 8 "metro" interface, flat design tiles, the whole world moving to cloud first, mobile first, and all that good stuff...<br><br>Firefox has started copying Google's Chrome with the massive iteration/upgrade numerical versioning inflation counts, and installing a maintenence as a service forcing and deepthroating everyone to immediately upgrade upgrade upgrade...<br><br>Problem is this, now Firefox has gone like full on google, Ads in the browser itself all about monetization, etc.... <br><br>This is why for non-Tor use, I'm sticking with Firefox 28.0 and will never move to the newer ad infested versions and the change of interface GUI that looks almost identical to Chrome.<br><br>it is many steps backwards in my opinion.... <br><br>And the dumbing down of TOR, at least from the UI/interface perspective is not good. <br><br>Sure I'll still use slax/tails, but Tor bundle for Windows by default is getting worse and worse. <br><br> prime example, why the heck is noscript turned off by default on TOR, and flash/silverlight/javascript not even blocked? <br><br><div class="zmail_extra"><div id="1"><br>---- On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 03:56:04 +0000 <b>Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg></b> wrote ---- <br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF;padding-left: 6px; margin: 0 0 0 5px">On 10 March 2015 at 11:22, John Lee <<a href="mailto:iratemonkey@gmx.com" target="_blank">iratemonkey@gmx.com</a>> wrote: <br>> For devs, <br>> <br>> 1) Where can I get a previous version of Tor Bundle for Windows? I'm looking <br>> for the version when it jumped from Firefox 24 ESR (or something below <br>> Firefox 28.0) to the new Firefox GUI that occurred when going above version <br>> 28.0 <br> <br><a href="https://archive.torproject.org/tor-package-archive/torbrowser/" target="_blank">https://archive.torproject.org/tor-package-archive/torbrowser/</a> I can't <br>tell you which version, but you can find it here. <br> <br> <br>> 2) How involved would it be to use a current version of TOR (like 4.0.4, <br>> etc) but match it with a Firefox 28.0 version or lower? (if I wanted to do <br>> it for my own use only) <br> <br>4.0.4 is the version of the entire Tor Browser Bundle archive. You <br>could fairly easily use an old Firefox version, and point it at a <br>local little-t tor instance but you would not be running Tor Browser, <br>and would lose the fingerprinting, unlinkability, and proxy bypass <br>defenses. You could also use an old version of Tor Browser Bundle <br>that used an old version of Firefox, and point it at a recent version <br>of little-t tor, but you'd lose the protections where you need it the <br>most. <br> <br>In general, running old versions of FF/TBB is not recommended. Maybe <br>you could elaborate on why you want to, so we can understand why the <br>current version doesn't work for you? <br> <br>> 3) Why is the little orion icon missing in TOR 4.0.4 bundle for Windows? Now <br>> Tor bundle looks exactly the same as regular Firefox and Firefox GUI looks <br>> like Chrome. There is very little visual differentiation left and this is a <br>> bit of a concern that I might accidentally cross containmenate. <br> <br>Sounds like bug I'm not familiar with... <br> <br>-tom <br>_______________________________________________ <br>tor-dev mailing list <br><a href="mailto:tor-dev@lists.torproject.org" target="_blank">tor-dev@lists.torproject.org</a> <br><a href="https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-dev</a> <br></blockquote><br></div><br></div></body></html>