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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I just want to note that right now, it's possible to run some
test with measurement-kit app on routers with latest OpenWrt. (
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/17ebaf2a3f0fcda71e92f0047485faaae4b4d583/libs/measurement-kit/Makefile">https://github.com/openwrt/packages/blob/17ebaf2a3f0fcda71e92f0047485faaae4b4d583/libs/measurement-kit/Makefile</a>
)</p>
<p>It should be also possible to run probe-cli on OpenWrt routers
(since OpenWrt SDK supports golang) I'm experimenting with that
right now, but it will probably require more time.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/ja-pa/packages/commit/febf3bfaaac5c3185aa139663fa2e0509eea2ea2">https://github.com/ja-pa/packages/commit/febf3bfaaac5c3185aa139663fa2e0509eea2ea2</a></p>
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<p>J.P.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 03. 09. 19 v 16:39 Arturo Filastò
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AM</a>, ilf <</span><a href="mailto:ilf@zeromail.org"
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; font-family: -apple-system,
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style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Friends,</span><br>
<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color:
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</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I
do quite some traveling, including to regions and
countries that could</span><span style="letter-spacing:
0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family:
-apple-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">benefit from
(another) OONI probe. However, I have not really found a</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">good way to
actually put OONI to use. The main reason is: all my
devices</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">heavily use
VPNs and Tor.</span><br>
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sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); letter-spacing:
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</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Have
you ever thought about some tiny OONI hardware probe? I
for one</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">would love an
small device, for example powered by PoE and getting</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">uplink via
ethernet, or powered by USB and getting uplink via WLAN.</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Something like
a RIPE Atlas Probe:</span><span style="letter-spacing:
0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family:
-apple-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><a
href="https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v2/" class=""
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; font-family: -apple-system,
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border-bottom-color: rgb(58, 154, 252) !important;"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/probe-v2/</a><br>
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style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; line-height: 1.2;">
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<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
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</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Three
ideas come to mind:</span><br>
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</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">1.
Someone probably already hack up something like this on a
Raspberry</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em;
color: rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
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<div style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; line-height: 1.2;">Pi
or similar. Can someone point me to this?<br
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<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color: rgb(96,
108, 118); letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;"><br>
</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Some time ago we had
a Raspberry Pi image that supported running OONI Probe out of
the box, however it turned out to be too much effort to maintain
it and keep it up to date, see: </span><font
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 1.2;"><a
href="https://github.com/thetorproject/lepidopter"
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; line-height: 1.2;"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/thetorproject/lepidopter</a></font><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">.</span><br>
<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color: rgb(96,
108, 118); letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;"><br>
</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">While it’s probably
still the easiest way to get a dedicated OONI Probe hardware
probe, you should keep in mind that it’s running a very old
version of debian (jessie) and we don’t have plans to support it
in the future.</span><br>
<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color: rgb(96,
108, 118); letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;"><br>
</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">In going forward we
believe that Android is the most promising platform to support
this style of automated testing. You can easily acquire a very
cheap android device (if you consider all the accessories to a
raspberry pi it adds up being much less) and we don’t have to
maintain up to date the base OS (this is handled by Android).</span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Moreover you have a UI that
allows you to connect the device to a wifi network and provide
feedback to the user (in lepidopter this was a challenge and we
did not support connecting to wifi network, but only cable).</span><br>
<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color: rgb(96,
108, 118); letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;"><br>
</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Within the next 2
releases of OONI Probe we will be re-adding support for
automated testing in Android which will open up the possibility
to setting up a device and leaving it somewhere.</span><br>
<font face="-apple-system, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif" color="#606c76"><span style="caret-color: rgb(96,
108, 118); letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;"><br>
</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">We also have plans
for adding features that are more tailored to the hardware style
deployment in OONI Probe Android so stay tuned for updates on
that front.</span><br>
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rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">2.
Time and money are limited, and having something like this
as a</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color:
rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">"product" needs
both. But something like this could also vastly increase</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">the amount of
probes. The Android App already drastically lowered the</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">bar to running
a probe. But some dongle one would just have to plug in</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">somewhere would
lower that even more. And if cheap enough, they could</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">just be left in
interesting places.</span><br>
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font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing:
0.12999999523162842px;">Another maybe related idea that we had
was of making a version of OONI Probe Android specifically
designed for Android TV devices. You can buy these devices for
super cheap (like less than 50 EUR) and they are pretty much
plug and play.</span><br>
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</span></font><span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em;
color: rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family: -apple-system,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif;">3. RIPE Atlas Probes serve a different
purpose. But has anyone ever</span><span
style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108, 118);
font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0.01em; color: rgb(96, 108,
118); font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica
Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">talked to
RIPE NCC about the possibility of maybe running OONI on
them?</span><br>
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</span><span style="color: rgb(96, 108, 118); font-family:
-apple-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif; letter-spacing: 0.12999999523162842px;">We are in
touch with them and I think we share some set of common goals,
though their focus is less on internet censorship and more on
general networking, which is why their scope is a bit different
to that of OONI.</span><br>
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font-family: -apple-system, "Helvetica Neue",
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0.12999999523162842px;">Hope this helps answer some of your
questions.</span><br>
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