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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/2017 03:52 PM, Vasilis wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Ola!
Welcome on board George and Mini!
mini:
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<pre wrap="">On 10/18/2017 10:40 AM, George wrote:
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<pre wrap="">gus:
Maybe it makes sense to work from the meeting notes, including for
people on this list that weren't there:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorOutsideOfFiveEyes">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorOutsideOfFiveEyes</a>
And there's also this:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/GlobalSouth">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/GlobalSouth</a>
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Indeed makes sense, let's start working from the meeting notes maybe
starting a new thread may help to find the discussion later.
A list of relevant sessions on the last Tor meeting (please add any
notes that you may have):
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/RelaySession">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/RelaySession</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorOutsideOfFiveEyes">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorOutsideOfFiveEyes</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/CommunityTeam/CommunityTeamMeeting">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/CommunityTeam/CommunityTeamMeeting</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorRelayOperators">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/TorRelayOperators</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/GlobalSouth">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017Montreal/Notes/GlobalSouth</a>
Also added the notes taken from the last Tor meetup in Buenos Aires
(thank Juliana) if you have any further notes please add them here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017BuenosAiresMeetup">https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2017BuenosAiresMeetup</a>
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<pre wrap="">* I can try to promote the GS list, maybe a GS-español list?
* And also help with meetups in Argentina/bs as,
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That will be great, let me/us know if you need any help to prepare the
meetups. I have a bunch of various Tor stickers that are stacked up and
ready to be shipped to the eko.space. :)</pre>
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:D Im not part of the eko.space, but I would gladly go for some
stickers :P<br>
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<pre wrap="">* I dont think that the language is a problem at least for running
relays and exit nodes, the problem we have here is more related to the
legal system, for example if you run an exit node in a hacklab the
police could come with an order and seize ALL the equipement in the lab
for at least 2 or 3 years, this has already happened.
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Derechos digitales in Chile may probably provide legal help.
I remember Ilv mentioned that there is a plan of an accepted proposal
that could support Tor relays operators in LATAM with legal help.
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<pre wrap="">* If you need help traducing things to spanish we can help with that.
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Translating *tor resources such as documentation, relay configuration
examples, torproject website.
Currently the torproject website has no support for i18n, there were a
number of talks about how we can improve this but it seems that Colin
(CCed) may have an idea or more concrete plan on how we can translate
the website without waiting for longer time until we have a new website
that supports i18n.
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<pre wrap="">IIRC, there was a discussion about expanding the focus of this list to
"Tor Poor" areas, not just the Global South.
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<pre wrap="">tor poor and global south sounds quite peyorative, its kind of like
saying the colonialist north tor meeting. :(
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I highly agree with Mini both names sound awful!
During the Tor meeting we brainstormed a bit for a better name but it
didn't come up with one yet.
Finding good names is always hard! :)
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<pre wrap="">Our TDP stats could be useful here, particularly when looking at
countries and ASs with weak or no Tor presence.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://torbsd.github.io/oostats.html">https://torbsd.github.io/oostats.html</a>
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Great website George, I guess this can be used and easily adjusted to
people that like HTML and text only websites. ;)
"For now we are updating the reports manually every week and only
producing plain text. HTML output and automated updates are in the works."
"last updated: Sun Sep 3 14:07:32 2017 UTC"
It seems that the stats are being updated regularly (daily?), Relay
Reports and Bridge Reports are all set with Report Date: Wed Oct 18
22:46:25 UTC 2017. Are the reports generated automatically now or is it
just a coincidence?
During the Tor meeting we played a bit with the Tor metrics data and R
we can find the result here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/arthuredelstein/metrics-playground">https://github.com/arthuredelstein/metrics-playground</a> that generated a
some beatiful plots:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/arthuredelstein/metrics-playground/blob/master/Rplots.pdf">https://github.com/arthuredelstein/metrics-playground/blob/master/Rplots.pdf</a>
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<pre wrap="">More specifically, I think we were talking about a focus on .br .ar .cl
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<pre wrap="">I can talk about Argentina, there is a strong community here, some of
the members run relays or exit node using vpn's or vps. There is an
event called Grog&Tor that has been going for almost 2 years, its kind
of like a cryptoparty but focused on tor, free software and privacy,
this event is done every month.
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<pre wrap="">I wasn't aware about the Grog&Tor event
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/GrogTor">https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/GrogTor</a>), it seems that they have
monthly IRC meetups
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/GrogTor#.C2.A1Quiero_ir.21">https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/GrogTor#.C2.A1Quiero_ir.21</a>) that are
easier for us to attend.
Do you know when is the next Grog&Tor event/meetup?</pre>
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hey november 10(friday) and november 18(saturday) . Im not part of
the pirate party but they talk about the grog&Tor in the channel<br>
irc: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/IRC">https://wiki.partidopirata.com.ar/IRC</a><br>
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<pre wrap="">This year there was a talk about tor
exit nodes and the argentinian legal system at the ekoparty[1] (I think
is the biggest security conference in latin america, like a global south
defcon).
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Is there any audio/video material or notes of the talk?
It will be super useful to add all these events, groups, talks,
conferences, ... to the Tor wiki as it may help people that would like
to jump on the boat and help.
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Yes! the ekoparty publish all the videos, but I dont know when,
fedek probably knows more about that.<br>
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What is already public is the presentation: <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ivan.barreraoro.com.ar/presentation/ekoparty13/#/">https://ivan.barreraoro.com.ar/presentation/ekoparty13/#/</a><br>
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[]s,
~Vasilis
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