[anti-censorship-team] future of PTs

[meskio]

Looks like the best date for most of the people is:

Tuesday October 17 at 1500UTC (tomorrow)

Let's meet in BBB at: https://tor.meet.coop/mes-gsp-tmh-2hm

Quoting meskio (2023-10-12 12:55:12)
> During last week's meeting we had a conversation on the future of Pluggable 
> Transports. Our current pt protocol[0] have many limitations, the two main ones 
> are:
>   * We have to do hacks to do things like passing arguments, and they come with 
>     many problems[1]
>   * There are not many SOCKS server implementations and many PTs end up needing 
>     to implement their own (goptlib and proteus have done it)
> 
> We have being wondering if making a change from SOCKS to a HTTP based protocol 
> is the solution we need[2].
> 
> For mobile phones we will need PTs to be implemented as libraries, and some 
> projects like IPtProxy[3] have being created to work around that limitation. It 
> looks like we will want anyway a future were arti has PT plugins and PTs are 
> integrated in arti. We might want to extend that idea to implement all the 
> connect assist workflow there, so clients that use arti don't need to implement 
> all the logic themselves again and again.
> 
> With that future of PTs as plugins. Do we still need a inter-process PT 
> protocol? and need to make a new version of the pt-spec[0]? Or should we ditch 
> it and start working on what will that plugin API/ABI look like and how PTs will 
> be integrated there?
> 
> 
> It looks like this conversation doesn't fit well in our irc weekly meetings, 
> let's have a voice meeting to discuss this. I have created a poll to see what 
> date next week will work better for all of us:
> https://www.systemli.org/poll/#/poll/YRRF8K19Bq/participation?encryptionKey=e1f9KPaHH6z7I6uYGNQVlegHvMGB3aHJaEufGQl7
>  
> 
> [0] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/pt-spec.txt
> [1] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/issues/104
> [2] https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/issues/130
> [3] https://github.com/tladesignz/IPtProxy

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